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CITY OF ANDOVER

SITE PLAN REVIEW COMMITTEE

November 5, 2002

 

The Site Plan Review Committee met November 5, 2002 at the Andover Central Park Lodge located at 1607 E. Central, Andover, Kansas. Members in attendance were Chairman Doug Allison, Gary Israel, Charley Lewis, Kevin Dreiling and Charles Malcom. Also in attendance were Jeff Bridges, City Clerk/Administrator, Les Mangus, Zoning Administrator, and Deborah Carroll, Administrative Secretary.  Member absent was Shawn King.

 

 

 

The meeting was called to order by Chairman Doug Allison at 6:00 p.m.

Call to order

 

 

Review the minutes of the Site Plan Review Committee meeting of October 1, 2002. Motion by Charles Malcom to approve the minutes as presented. Charley Lewis seconded the motion.  Motion carried 5-0.

 

Review the minutes of the SPRC meeting of October 1, 2002.

 

 

Staff communications and reports. Jeff Bridges commented on how beautiful all the trees are that have been planted in Andover during the last few years.

Staff communication and reports

 

 

Review SP-2002-11 Revised Site Plan for Folger's Gymnastics at 121 E. King Street. Garrett Addison of Smith Construction Co. Inc., and owner Mark Folger were in attendance to answer questions raised by the Site Plan Review Committee Members. Mr. Addison reviewed items from the last meeting which include increasing the size of the berm on the front of the building, change some of the plantings, addition of one pole light in the parking lot, all of which have been completed as asked. The one item not addressed was the sprinkler system as it was neither planned for nor affordable by the owner. Mr. Addison stated he had a meeting with the Gas Company that said they prefer they not place anything permanent (trees or anything with a concrete base) within 15' of the pipeline, but that they do not mind open areas. The Gas Company will have a hold harmless agreement for Mark and Penny Folger to sign regarding the berm and trees.

 

Larry Crouse arrived at 6:07 p.m.

 

Mark Folger addressed the Committee concerning the requirement of a sprinkler system. Mr. Folger stated he and his wife have been watering all the plants on the property by hand. He further stated this is a small family-owned business that has compared the costs of equipment for the children's classes to the cost of a sprinkler system, and they think the money would be better spent on the kids and the equipment for their programs. Mr. Folger further stated that the bus barn, the Suburban building, the Andover Church of Christ at 816 N. Andover Road have not been required to install sprinkler systems. He feels this is inconsistent treatment. He promises to take care of the new trees, as replacing them would mean a major personal expense.

 

Les Mangus had a question about the three hearty hibiscus plants on the north side of the sidewalk adjacent to the pool. Mr. Folger stated they were trying to match the ones on the west side, and the reason for not planting a tree there was because of the pool. Mr. Folger chose the hibiscus for the color, foliage, and said that it would not grow above the height of the fence. Les Mangus is concerned about the 5' wide sidewalk and planting hibiscus that grows 6-8 feet high and has a tendency to spread out and might create a channel. Larry Crouse suggested the foliage be cut back after it leafs out, it will make the plant sturdier, and it won't get leggy, and won't get too high for the fence.

 

Mr. Crouse disagrees completely about the requirement for installation of a sprinkler system and stated he will vote no if the plan does not include it.  There was general discussion about consistency of requirements of sprinkler systems and about other decisions made by the Site Plan Review Committee. Mr. Folger again asked the Committee Members to be fair and consistent with their decision.

 

Garrett Addison compared Andover policies with those of Wichita where he does other business, and he stated they have the same requirements for maintenance of landscaping, but that if a hose bib is installed, you are not required to install the complete sprinkler system for approval. Mr. Addison asked the Committee to trust the business owner to water the plantings as requested without the automated system.

Charley Lewis reminded Mr. Addison that the owner purchased the building materials in question prior to receiving approval from the Site Plan Review Committee. Chairman Allison stated that each project is considered on its own merits, with unique location, character, and that this project is in a high profile location with a lot of green space on the corner. 

 

Charley Lewis complimented Mark Folger on the plan he submitted tonight and said it was wonderful and that she was impressed that he has corrected everything as requested. Mr. Folger said he did not believe the life span of the new trees would change if he was watering them by hand or was using automatic sprinklers. Charley Lewis asked Mark Folger if he has bid out the irrigation system. He said that he has only gotten estimates on it.

 

Motion was made by Kevin Dreiling to accept the plan as presented. Charles Malcom seconded the motion. Gary Israel asked if the motion was to include the irrigation on all turf areas as stated on the plan. Mr. Dreiling said that it does. Garrett Addison stated it was an error on his employee's part to allow those terms on the plat and he did apologize for it.

 

Motion was amended by Kevin Dreiling to accept the plan as presented without the irrigation system on all turf areas. Charles Malcom seconded the motion. Motion fails 4-2. Members voting yes were Kevin Dreiling and Charles Malcom. Members voting no were Charley Lewis, Larry Crouse, Gary Israel, and Doug Allison.

 

Mark Folger continued to object that the Committee is not being fair or consistent. Jeff Bridges asked if there was any aspect of this plan that could be continued with until the irrigation issue is settled. Chairman Allison stated the lighting could be completed. Mr. Bridges stated that the applicant could appeal to the Planning Commission if they do not agree with the decision. Garrett Addison said he wanted it stated clearly in policy or ordinance the requirements for sprinkler systems and planting selections so that developers would know up front the costs involved in building in Andover. Jeff Bridges stated that the applicant is allowed to interject their own preferences rather than requiring the property owners to plant a certain number of trees per linear foot. Doug Allison said the Site Plan Review Committee judgements are made upon plant adaptability to the individual zone. Jeff Bridges stated the Planning Commission would hear the case and judge whether or not the requirement of the Committee was reasonable. Mr. Bridges further stated that an affirmative vote would be necessary on the plan, which includes the sprinkler system for the Planning Commission to judge its reasonableness. 

 

Gary Israel made a motion to approve the application with a sprinkler system. Charley Lewis seconded the motion Motion carried 5-1. Charles Malcom voted no. Yes votes were recorded of Charley Lewis, Gary Israel, Larry Crouse, Kevin Dreiling, and Doug Allison.

 

Les Mangus explained the process for appeal of the decision to the applicants

Review SP-2002-11 Revised Site Plan for Folger's Gymnastics at 121 E. King Street.

 

 

Member Items: Charley Lewis said the light is out on the monument sign at Central Park .

 

Gary Israel stated the decorative metal work has never been completed on the Papa John's and the Hallmark store.

 

Les Mangus stated that the SPRC has adopted as policy the Kansas Preferred Tree Species List, and that a policy could be adopted requiring all turf areas to be sprinkled.

 

Jeff Bridges said that members were asked to serve on this committee due to their being experts in their individual fields which avoids the "cookie cutter" character of the neighborhoods.

Member Items

 

 

Motion was made by Charley Lewis to adjourn the meeting. Larry Crouse seconded the motion. Motion carried 6-0.

Adjournment