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ANDOVER PLANNING COMMISSION

SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE

October 12, 2004

Minutes

 

The Andover City Subdivision Committee met for a regular meeting on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 at 909 N. Andover Road in the Andover Civic Center.  Chairman Clark Nelson called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m. Other members present were Ron Roberts, and Jan Cox. Others in attendance were Zoning Administrator Les Mangus, Administrative Secretary Deborah Carroll, and City Clerk/Administrator Jeff Bridges.  Commission Member Charlotte Bass was absent.

Call to Order

 

 

 

Review the minutes of the September 14, 2004 Subdivision Committee.

 

Ron Roberts made a motion to approve the minutes as presented. Jan Cox seconded the motion. Motion carried 3/0.  

Review the minutes of the Sept. 14, 2004 Subdivision Committee.

 

 

Communications:

Review the City Council minutes from the August 31, 2004 and September 14, 2004 meetings. The minutes were received and filed.

 

Review the minutes of the September 7, 2004 Site Plan Review Committee Meeting. The minutes were received and filed.

 

Review the minutes of the September 21, 2004 Planning Commission meeting. The minutes were received and filed.

 

Review the Potential Residential Development Lot Report.

Communications:

 

 

Clark Nelson said the Election of Officers was taken care of in September.

 

 

 

Review the Final PUD Plan for the Cornerstone Addition- First Phase of the Decker/Kiser PUD.

 

Clark Nelson asked Les Mangus for an explanation of this plan. Les said this is the first final from the 505 acre Decker/Kiser PUD. All of the zoning is in place as well as the conceptual street layouts. The owner wants to change some of the zoning on a portion of 2 of the parcels.

 

Greg Allison said he represents the owner of the easterly portion of the PUD. Greg said the name of the Plat needs to remain Decker/Kiser from the original PUD. There was general discussion about ownership of the areas of the PUD.

 

Greg said 2 of the parcels were previously zoned B-2 and B-3and that the new land plan is in substantial conformance with the approved Preliminary PUD. Parcels 3, 4, & 14 boundaries will change some. The application submitted for the next Planning Commission meeting is for residential zoning to be extended down into the commercial parcels.

 

Les said this Final PUD encompasses all of 1 parcel which is proposed to be amended and part of another which is already properly zoned. Greg said that at the Planning Commission meeting they will ask to amend the PUD and approve the Final Plat.  

 

Greg said the streets in the Final PUD will match up to the original PUD streets alignments at the half-mile line.

 

Clark asked if there are any existing houses on this property. Greg said this is vacant land. There was further discussion about the exact location of this Final PUD. Les said when the Planning Commission reviews this zoning change, they will be amending the entire original PUD.

 

Clark Nelson referred to the memo from Les Mangus to the Subdivision Committee “This Final PUD is linked with public hearing on the amendment of the Decker/Kiser PUD scheduled for the October 19, 2004 Planning Commission meeting. The proposed amendment changes the zoning of portions of two commercial parcels to R-2 Single Family Residential District and changes the residential layout of all of the residential parcels east of the half section line. The net affect of the proposed change is slightly more developed land with a slightly lower density through the elimination of some of the multi-family uses. The final PUD reflects the development of a portion of the existing R-2 Parcel 14, and a portion of Parcel 4, which is proposed to be rezoned from B-1 Office Business District to R-2 Single Family Residential District. This 1st phase of development is a little different from the Preliminary PUD, which conceptually routed a collector street through the residential neighborhoods without lots which front on the collector street, although the net densities are similar. There are a few items to be addressed from the checklist, but nothing of great consequence, mostly format issues.”  Les said these owners don’t intend to make full use of the parcel that is zoned R-3 Multi-Family. Les said that when this plan was originally presented and approved, the collector streets did not have houses that fronted onto them. On the Decker side, they are proposing houses fronted to the street along all collector streets.

 

Jeff Bridges asked if there would be 8’ sidewalks in this Final PUD. Greg said he understands Andover has an 8’ sidewalk policy for collector streets and it will be complied to. Les said they intentionally have some very deep lots along the collector streets to allow for the wider sidewalks.

 

There was general discussion about street names.

 

Jeff asked where the 8’ sidewalks would be run. Les said the general provisions state “Sidewalks are proposed along the collector streets and the loop roads within each parcel. The width of the sidewalk on the collector streets shall be 8 feet and the width on local loop streets shall be 5 feet. The exact location will be determined at the time of the Final PUD plan submitted for each parcel”. 

 

Jeff asked if Parcel 3 of 5.7 acres of B-3 zoning is still in the plan. Greg said yes it is part of the zoning amendment request for next week. Les said they will be platting portions of 3 parcels, and the stub of Cornerstone Parkway that intersects with 21st Street.

 

Jan Cox asked for information about the right-of-way dimensions along the collector streets. She said the regulations require a 66’ right-of-way for a collector street in a residential area, and 70’ for commercial area. Greg said if there are lots that front onto the collector street, it must be wider. Les said that on the Preliminary PUD, there was no driveway access onto the collectors, they were allowed to narrow the right-of-way down to 60’. There was further discussion about the width of the streets on the final vs. preliminary PUDs. 

 

Les said the street is 100’ wide on Cornerstone Parkway from 21st Street through the commercial area, then narrows to 64’ when it enters the residential area at Cantera. PUD’s do allow for the standards to be varied. Les said 60’ was allowed when there are no houses adjacent to it and there are parallel reserves.

 

Jan asked if there is a 66’ right-of-way, how wide the street would be. Les said it would be 37’. Clark asked if the street right-of-way width was increased, would it be taken from Reserve A. Jeff asked if parking would be allowed along the street. There was discussion about “No Parking” signage and enforcement. 

 

There was discussion about switching the street widths of Cantera Drive and Cornerstone Parkway on the Final PUD. Clark suggested widening Cornerstone from 64’ to 66’ and allow the reduction of Cantera Drive north of Amberly from 66’ to 64’ because it is by definition a through residential.

 

Les said that “No Parking” signage is typically only used on arterial streets.

 

Clark asked Les if all the comments have been addressed. Les said there is still some text revisions needed. Greg said this project is difficult because the parcel boundaries do not match lot line layouts.

 

There was discussion about the number of parcels and the proposed plan for development.

 

Clark Nelson asked if a drainage plan has been submitted. Greg said it was submitted today, but Les said he has not seen it yet.

 

Jan Cox asked if this property is in a flood plain. Greg said none of the area in the Final PUD submitted tonight is, but the parcel adjacent to the east is. This area has localized drainage on the southwest corner of this PUD.  Les said measures would be taken to bring the grade to accommodate a 25 year storm and that regulations state there will be no increase in the rate of flow which typically means that at a 100 year storm there will be a similar benefit.

 

There was discussion about drainage and flood plains. Greg said this PUD will be designed to the 100 year storm event. Les said the 100 year storm is 6.7” per hour and a 25 year storm is 1” per hour. Les referred to the Street Policy and said projects need to be designed around the 100 year storm because all the water has to stay within the street right-of-way, and on the arterial streets the water cannot over top the street, it must leave 2 moving lanes in the center.

 

Jan Cox asked if comment C.15 minimum building elevations proposed has been addressed. Les said he has not received the drainage plan yet to review.

 

Clark said the question remains about the street widths of Cantera Drive and Cornerstone Parkway. Jan and Ron said they prefer the streets be 66’ wide. Les said he agrees because of the amount of traffic generated by the surrounding parcels.

 

Ron Roberts made a motion to recommend approval to the Planning Commission for the Final PUD Plan for the Cornerstone Addition First Phase with Cornerstone Parkway north of Parcel 3 would be 66’ wide, Cantera Drive north of Amberly Street would be reduced to 64’right-of-way.The  balance of Cantera Drive from Amberly to Cornerstone Parkway would be 66’right-of-way. This motion is subject to staff comments, specifically the drainage plan, hydrology, and minimum pad elevations, subject to the approval of the zoning change. Jan Cox seconded the motion. Motion carried 3/0.

Review the Final PUD Plan for the Cornerstone Addition- First Phase of the PUD.

 

 

Member Items: Clark Nelson said street policies would be a useful workshop topic. He said he will propose some workshop dates and times at the next Planning Commission meeting. He would like to have at least 3 workshop meetings that last no more than an hour.

Member Items

 

 

Ron Roberts made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 6:38 p.m. Jan Cox seconded the motion. Motion carried 3/0.

 

Adjournment

 

Respectfully Submitted by

 

__________________________

Deborah Carroll

Administrative Secretary

 

Approved this 9th day of November 2004 by the Subdivision Committee, City of Andover.