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ANDOVER PLANNING COMMISSION

SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE

September 13, 2005

Minutes

 

The Andover City Subdivision Committee met for a regular meeting on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 909 N. Andover Road in the Andover Civic Center.  Chairman Clark Nelson called the meeting to order at 5:40 p.m. Other member present was Ron Roberts. Others in attendance were Zoning Administrator Les Mangus, Administrative Secretary Deborah Carroll, and City Clerk/Administrator Jeff Bridges.  Committee Members Charlotte Bass and Jan Cox were absent.

Call to Order

 

 

 

Review the minutes of the May 10, 2005 Subdivision Committee.

 

Ron Roberts made a motion to approve the minutes as presented. Clark Nelson seconded the motion. Motion carried 2/0.

Review the minutes of the May 10, 2005 Subdivision Committee.

 

 

Communications:

Review the City Council minutes from the August 9, 2005 and August 30, 2005 meetings. The minutes were received and filed.

 

Review the minutes of the August 16, 2005 Planning Commission meeting. The minutes were received and filed.

 

Review the Potential Residential Development Lot Report.

Communications

 

 

Review the revised Anna Addition Small Tract Final Plat located at 1139 N. Andover Rd.  Les Mangus explained this final plat was reviewed & approved in part some time ago. The owner has acquired the property adjacent to the south, and desires to incorporate the two properties into one plat. The new property has been approved for commercial zoning, contingent on platting. The Staff comments are more technical in nature, and should be able to be resolved before the Planning Commission Meeting. Les said a letter has been received from SBC stating they do not request any additional easements.

 

Mark Savoy of Savoy Company P.A. represented the owner Venture Enterprises. Mark said he has asked Kenny Hill to design a drainage plan. He said they would like to build a sanitary sewer extension to the property which they would petition the city for.

 

Clark Nelson asked if the screening plan had been submitted. Mark said it is in process.

 

Clark Nelson asked if this case would be heard by the Planning Commission on September 20th. Les said it would be and that the drainage and screening plans would have to be submitted delivered on Thursday afternoon to be included in the Commissioners packets.

 

There was general discussion about the screening plan. Les said there needs to be text stating whether the residential neighborhood would be screened with fencing of wood, masonry, or live plants.

 

Ron Roberts made a motion to recommend approval of the final plat to the Planning Commission subject to staff comments. Clark Nelson seconded the motion. Motion carried 2/0.

Review the revised Anna Addition Small Tract Final Plat located at 1139 N. Andover Rd.

 

 

 

Review the Andover Church of Christ Addition located at 816 N. Andover Rd.

 

The church desires to plat their property creating two lots. The Church & parsonage would remain together as a lot, and the vacant land would be a new lot available for commercial development. There are several items in the Staff Checklist comments that should be able to be resolved before the Planning Commission Meeting. Les said all staff comments need to be satisfied by Thursday to be included in the Planning Commission packets for the September 20th meeting.

 

Ron Roberts said he would be absent from the September 20th Planning Commission meeting due to the bond issue voting.

 

Les said there is a sanitary sewer in Reserve A that could possibly be extended to serve both of these lots. Crescent Lakes owns Reserve A.  The existing sewer runs in the front of the church property.

 

Les said on both of the plats, the center line of Andover Road is not the section line as currently shown.

 

Les said since there is a mortgage on the property, there would need to be a place on the final plat for the mortgage holder certificate.

 

Les asked Mark if he would provide drainage and screening plans for this plat also. Mark said he would.

Ron Roberts made a motion to recommend approval of the final plat to the Planning Commission subject to staff checklist comments. Clark Nelson seconded the motion. Motion carried 2/0.

Review the Andover Church of Christ Addition located at 816 N. Andover Rd.

 

 

 

Review the Sketch Plan for the Serendipity Estates Preliminary Planned Unit Development located at 200 N. 159th street. Property owner Robert Kaplan was present to answer questions of the committee.

 

Les stated the owner desires to divide a ten acre tract with an existing home into 5 lots with a private access drive. The arrangement of lots along the long driveway exceeds the 500 foot maximum length for a cul-de-sac which has triggered the need for a PUD.

 

Les said this is a sketch plan which will go to the Planning Commission as a Preliminary PUD at the October 18 meeting.

 

Jeff Bridges asked if a road would be built to access parcel 5. Bob Kaplan said he would extend the existing road. Jeff Bridges asked if it would be paved. There was no response.

 

Bob said he is marketing Parcels 4 and 5 together and thinks they will sell to 1 owner who will not need an access road to Parcel 5. The existing pond would be divided between the owners of Parcels 3 and 4.

 

Les said Reserve A should be noted as an access parcel which would be a private road. Clark Nelson asked how wide the road needs to be to comply with Fire codes. Les said Chief Shaver needs to be consulted for this. Les said the right-of-way seems to be adequate and marginal access allows 50’ in width. He is more concerned with improvements to the road and private ownership of the road.

 

Ron Roberts said a homeowners association needed to be formed to decide maintenance issues of this road.

 

Ron Roberts was concerned about approval of a gravel road within the city limits of Andover. Bob Kaplan said the road is the beauty of the property with the gravel road giving a “country feel”. He said he does not want a paved road on this property.

 

Les was concerned about the maintenance of the lake. He said common ownership of a lake is asking for problems. Clark Nelson said a common maintenance agreement needs to be provided. Bob Kaplan said this pond is only ¾ acre and will not be a problem. He further stated the dam was built in 1972 and is solid as the day it was built with an overflow pipe. He said this dam has never needed any maintenance other than mowing.

 

Clark Nelson asked if the owner of Parcel 1 would have access to the pond. Bob Kaplan said no. Only the private owners of Parcels 3 and 4 would have access to the pond. There was further discussion about a lake maintenance agreement. Bob Kaplan said that could be included in the homeowners association. He also said a covenant could be created between the lake owners which would be a recorded document and would be passed on to the new owners of the property when it is sold.

 

Les said the city would require a clause in the homeowner’s association maintenance agreement that states failure to maintain the road would initiate the city to take care of it and assess the costs back to the abutting property owners. There was further discussion about the future paving of this road should the majority of the property owners desire it done.

 

Ron Roberts was concerned about the length of the cul-de-sac. There was general discussion about cul-de-sacs. Clark said there are only 5 lots in this PUD so the length of the cul-de-sac is not an issue.

 

Les asked about splitting this project into Phases 1 & 2 because the extension of water and sewer service would be more manageable. Bob Kaplan said the house on Parcel 4 is serviced by well water and has a lagoon. Bob said all of these properties will be put onto city utilities.

 

There was general discussion about the extension of utilities. Les said there is no easement around the public sanitary sewer. Bob Kaplan said there is an easement under the berm north and south. Bob said he would try to obtain an easement along Lakeside at no cost to the city. 

 

There was general discussion about potable water from domestic wells and wells used for irrigation.

 

Bob Kaplan said he would prefer this plat be approved as submitted with the extension of the roadway, properly labeling it as “Reserve A” access, creation of a homeowners association, and maintenance provisions for the pond and road. Les is concerned about the details in the covenant between the property owners. Bob said the maintenance of the lake should be in a document solely between the 2 property owners.

 

Clark Nelson said the issue of gravel vs. paving of the road will be decided at the Planning Commission meeting. Ron Roberts is concerned about fast moving traffic creating dust if the road is not paved. Bob Kaplan said an asphalt mat would not be a problem.

 

Les was concerned about the drainage along the road because there are no defined ditches to carry water during a heavy storm. 4 individual driveway connections to the road will change the drainage flow. Bob said the water would drain to the bar ditch, and the rest would drain to the pond. Les said half of Lot 2 drains to the pond and the other half goes to 159th Street. Les is concerned about the future homes being designed with a walk-out basement and berms. He insisted on a formal drainage plan with set pad elevations.  

 

Les asked if a building setback line or build to line would be designated adjacent to the reserve. Bob Kaplan said that could be provided. Bob said there is a 6’ fall from the north to the south property lines. Les said the fall of the grade prohibits building either walk-out or view-out homes.

 

This case can be heard by the Planning Commission on October 18, 2005. Bob Kaplan said he will get a revised drawing for Les.

Review the Sketch Plan for the Serendipity Estates Preliminary Planned Unit Development located at 200 N. 159th street.

 

 

Member Items: none

Member Items

 

 

Ron Roberts made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 6:45 p.m. Clark Nelson seconded the motion. Motion carried 2/0.

Adjournment

 

 

 

Respectfully Submitted by

 

__________________________

Deborah Carroll

Administrative Secretary

 

Approved this 11th day of October 2005 by the Subdivision Committee, City of Andover.